lmao saw a post that said that gamzees death would not be just because he’s been mind controlled u know unlike jade and jane

temporalgearshift:

asexualvriska:

apxtheosis-remaking:

1) gamzee killed nepeta, equius and karkat and abused terezi for months

2) he’s not fucking godtier

3) he actually has the highest bodycount out of all the trolls (minus FLARPing kills), not including the innumerable other timelines where he snapped and killed everyone. it’s like a universal constant that gamzee murders everyone

4) all aranea mind controlled him to do was to bring her the ring of life. she didn’t actually want to kill anyone actively besides jade and jane (who she killed herself) and lord english

if anyone in this entire comic deserves to get permakilled and then wiped out by lord english, it’s fucking gamzee goddamn makara

it’s so obvious too! when alt doomed Aradiabot is explaining the origin of the session and the honkHONK code, she says that in her timeline, Gamzee snapped and killed everyone:

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we also know gamzee wasn’t even under the influence of Dave’s revelation that his religion was BS, because people from doomed timelines can’t communicate with anyone outside their session:

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we know that this version of Gamzee couldn’t have seen the Miracles video, because the timeline split before Dave ever showed it to him:

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which also means Aranea couldn’t have taken control of this version of Gamzee. he is just a genuinely terrible person no matter what happens to him, and the only thing keeping him from killing is sopor.

you also have to take into account the fact that the Beforus trolls weren’t even meant to be shown, and Hussie only did it as a sort of fanservice that evolved into something more important. that only goes further to prove that Aranea controlling Gamzee was never intended to extend to any time before she used him to bring the Ring of Life

g od fucking bless

thank u for providing these screenshots. that’s what i was referring to with the “other timelines where he snapped and killed everyone”. there’s really no excuse for people trying to justify what he’s done or blame it on somebody else.